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Not been on here for a while but looking at getting another bike I have seen a 1050 adv close to me what’s the performance like on these i have read about it not making any power over 6k ??????
 

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Good thread with Dyno pics hidden in here.

 

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They don't, restricted down to 94BHP so they just stop making power at 6k, the 1090 is the same engine uncorked and makes 125BHP, pretty much identical power up to that 6k mark, then the 1090 has a good top end up to about 10k.

I was looking at 1050 as a second bike a couple of years ago, but 2014's were going for £6k+ at the time, and £7.5k got me a 3 year newer 1090 with panniers - great bike, nowhere near the 1190 mid range / top end, but certainly quick enough to be fun, I can't see I would say the same if the power had stopped at 6k.

Probably would not have to find a lot more cash to get an early 1090 or even a slightly older 1190, they are quite reliable, better finished and a load more fun!

1090 = Good
1190 = Awesome
1050 = Bland?
 

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1050 riding modes are :
Sport , Full Power, slightly less traction control.
Street, Full Power, full traction control.
Rain, Reduced Power
If you mean can you increase the power, I do not think so.
 

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Yes that is what I meant I wondered a power commander or something similar
 

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don't know for sure but cutting power is usually both limited injection and ignition limiter.
first can be resolved by Power Commander, but if it can alter the ignition then you've got a one-stop-solution.
or, maybe just place a 1090 ECU?
 

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There may have been a thread on here about this.
I think that the power is limited by the throttle, which as that is 'fly by wire' the ECU has to be mapped, which not many can do.

Here's the thread - £450 to get to 107 hp.

 

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You could go through the part numbers of the two bikes and make a note of the differences, should only take a few months.
 

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I think that the power is limited by the throttle, which as that is 'fly by wire' the ECU has to be mapped, which not many can do.

Here's the thread - £450 to get to 107 hp.
I looked at this, but it is £450 to get you half way to 1090 power, the graph is still an odd shape and it still does not build power and rev out in a natural way - and the £450 will not add a penny to the bikes value, might put some buyers off.

You could go through the part numbers of the two bikes and make a note of the differences, should only take a few months.
Another (very expensive) option to try and get a 1050 to perform like a 1090....

... a much easier way is to buy a 1090 ;-)

It might cost a nit more, I spent about £1200 more to buy a 2017 1090 with luggage than I could of got a 2016 1050 without luggage, I bet I also got £1200 more when I came to sell it than I would of got for the 1050.

If 94BHP and an effective rev limit of about 6500rpm is enough then a 1050 is a good option (if the price is right) but buying a 1050 because it is cheap and then throwing a load of money trying to make it faster is a bad idea IMO.

For a test ride, just have a go on a 1090 and don't go over 6500 rpm, it will give you a rough idea of what the 1050 is like, except the 1090 is also slightly smoother (the 2016-2017 models saw a lot of improvements, my 1090 was a lot smoother than my 1190 - and my 1290 was also smoother than my 1190 so it was not down to slightly smaller pistons.

Plus if you only want 94BHP you can buy one of those crap Honda's nobody wants ;-)
 
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