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2011-2016 vs 2017-2023 300

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1.3K views 16 replies 7 participants last post by  Kevin2306  
#1 ·
So after getting majorly annoyed with the 18 tpi I had from new I sold it and brought a 2011 EXC450, yeah it's heavy and the throttle response has always been shite but I've enjoyed it for the past couple of years and was no faster or had any more fun than when I used to chase the latest and greatest.
Rode friends TPIs and they were OK but other than the ones with Ktech or Cone valves the forks were still better in my old weapon.
Engine was OK but lacking bottom end etc same old story.

But I had a go on an old Italian era Husky 300 and loved it!
Engine was unbelievably good other than the Kick-start being a weird bugger.
It reigniting my passion for another 300 in particular a carbed bike.
I fancy a 2012 to 2016 exc as from a price point of view they are peanuts compared to TPI but how do they compare?

I get most people want the newest thing but to be honest my days of spending anything over 4k on a bike that I'll chuck down a mountain are long gone.
 
#2 ·
I have a 2014 300 Exc and a 23 Husky TE300. The engine on the 14 kicks the shit out of the 23 but the 23 handles like it's on rails compared to the 14 (with cone valves on both).

There's absolutely nothing wrong with my 14 as a bike but the age means the starter is unreliable and the clutch is dragging a bit. I'm faster on the 23 but I enjoy the 14 engine more. I don't think you can beat a carb.
 
#3 ·
Look for a 2017 300 EXC. This will be carbed but has the later, more reliable starter motor and a balancer shaft so is smoother, win, win. You can then sort the clickers fairly cheaply too with a nice set of CC forks from an SXF.
 
#4 ·
The 17 bikes seem to make really strong money, I can get a 19 300 for the same price as a 17!
Plus my days on Jap 2 strokes tells me the Mikuni is a fiddly finicky piece of s**t.
So you factor in a Keihin...

I'd like to ride a TSP equipped 300 because I've heard they bring the old carb bark of the bottom back to the bike.
 
#7 ·
I don't think I'll ever get rid of my 17, mine is a 250 not a 300 but that was what I wanted. I've ridden a few pre 17 250/300s since I've had it and although I don't remember my 2012 being bad, every one I've ridden has been so vibey. Even one I rebuilt for a mate, think it was an 09, it was a lot better after but still like a wacker plate compared to mine. Tbh I think the reason he sold it was because he rode mine lol.

Also people are quick to slate the mikuni, after it was properly setup I've been pretty happy with it in all honesty. Same mate I rebuilt the 09 for asked if I could set his up the same as mine. It doesn't feel fast, it's so smooth though.
 
#8 ·
So if it were your money and you had to choose between a 2015 exc 300 for £3000 and a 2017 exc 300 for £4500 you would spend the extra 1500 for the 17?
Gonna take you guys at your words as you have all ridden, owned and experienced these bikes.
My only point of reference was a 18 300 and I hated it as I've already said.
Felt more like a a heavy 200 with a kilo of rotating mass stuck under the fuel tank 🤣
 
#10 ·
I would definitely buy the ‘17. I have a brand new ‘24 TBI, if a ‘17 came along at the right money I’d buy it.
 
#9 ·
It was an easier decision for me as mine was £4800 when i bought it from fowlers 5 years ago, I'd say £4500 is £500 too dear myself. But they're worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it I suppose! But yes I'd definitely go 17 over a 15. I have ridden an 18 husky 300 tpi the power on that was really strong. There's something wrong with his suspension though and it near on broke my thumbs going over bumps lol but I thought it was a really good engine myself.
 
#12 ·
I’ve not ridden it yet, still got it in bits in the garage, doing a few bits. I’m keen to get out on it but I like the simplicity of a carb. With the ‘17 I guess it’s kind of ’there if I need it‘ and it’s pretty much failsafe.
 
#15 ·
Nobody listens! Most people think their balls are bigger than their ears. They ain’t and never will be. Best thing is get a 125 2t. Ride that until you never get overtaken. Then move up. Getting overbiked early on holds you back and creates bad habits you may struggle to get rid of. 125s only teach good stuff.