[It's not Ginger]

These things happen everywhere. Better than having your EV catch fire!

I think that's the best thing to happen to any EV and anyone who bought one believing they are saving the planet and holier than though deserve to go up in smoke with the fucking thing.

 

[WazzaDuke33]

It’s all a load of bollocks this and typical forum hysteria. I did over 34 miles on my 890 and never had a single issue

 

[TrouserSnake]

I'm having serious doubts about buying a used 890 in the future.

 

[andy198712]

I'm having serious doubts about buying a used 890 in the future.

Watched that earlier, £2.5k for new cam and heads!

 

[terry950sm]

Watched that earlier, £2.5k for new cam and heads!

Just watched it. Deffo taking the extra warranty. Four years if you have it serviced by a ktm dealer

 

[andy198712]

Just watched it. Deffo taking the extra warranty. Four years if you have it serviced by a ktm dealer

Anouying he was basically told unless ktm service it they won’t cover it….
I hope he sends those cams away to be hardness tested. Trouble is I doubt ktm will release what they should be and there’s no kinda spec or minimum standard in that regard.
The fact there’s a new head out now?!

 

[TrouserSnake]

I think I'd be talking to trading standards with a view to calling on the Sale of Goods Act as the cams were clearly not fit for purpose.
No idea how far that would get you but if enough owners did it then they'd probably do something about it.

 

[lcjohnny]

I read about these failures on the ADV board and put off buying my 790 for 5yr. But at £6999 i could not resist the orange-power .

So i am getting engine oil analysed every 4,500 miles to try to catch a big increase in steel particles.
It costs £40 per analysis kit from Millers oils Millers oil linky

I posted on the US 790 board by mistake sorry US 790 board linky

here's my first oil analysis - if others do it and post theirs we may all learn more

 

[charlie264]

I'm having serious doubts about buying a used 890 in the future.

Fook me that was hard work, no followers, so if you open up yours please take some photos of the cams, followers, cam bridge journal surface and cam head journals. Looking at the vid full screen looks like oil starvation so keep an eye out for coolant leaks. The cams are cast in one piece so if the others are OK, then not enough oil on far cylinder, overheats, hardened metal surface looses integrity. Its not your air filter mate, my bet is a leaking WP seal and contaminated oil filter.

 

[charlie264]

I read about these failures on the ADV board and put off buying my 790 for 5yr. But at £6999 i could not resist the orange-power .

So i am getting engine oil analysed every 4,500 miles to try to catch a big increase in steel particles.
It costs £40 per analysis kit from Millers oils Millers oil linky

I posted on the US 790 board by mistake sorry US 790 board linky

here's my first oil analysis - if others do it and post theirs we may all learn more
View attachment 62494

Isn't Boron a soap, used in antifreeze?

 

[lcjohnny]

Isn't Boron a soap, used in antifreeze?

That's what they say on the back of the analysis "Additive, internal coolant leak, brake fluid contamination"
but they don't seem to regard regard that level as significant

 

[Ianktm]

That looks like not enough oil pressure getting to the end of the cams fed from the opposite side

 

[charlie264]

That looks like not enough oil pressure getting to the end of the cams fed from the opposite side

Eye, my bet WP seal leak swelling paper oil filter.

 

[WazzaDuke33]

You lot are fucking boron 😆

 

[charlie264]

 

[TrouserSnake]

and what it should look like even when just cold cranking

 

[charlie264]

and what it should look like even when just cold cranking

Is that yours, is it pissing out the jet?

 

[TrouserSnake]

Is that yours, is it pissing out the jet?

No, I don't have one yet.
Just keeping up with what's happening on this as I may want one one day.

 

[charlie264]

No, I don't have one yet.
Just keeping up with what's happening on this as I may want one one day.

Be nice to hold of an engine a diagnose why.

 

[TrouserSnake]

Be nice to hold of an engine a diagnose why.

It's weird.. looks like a blockage issue (or maybe failing oil pumps) but KTM seem to be treating this like a manufacturing defeat of some cams, or dirt ingress causing the inlet valve guides to become tight.

Either-way I'd be staying clear of any KTM parallel twin for now.. but hoping for a swift & positive resolution as I'd like a 790/890 as a 'run around' in the next few years.
I'd hate to have to buy a Jap PT instead.