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Bike won’t spark

7.3K views 15 replies 6 participants last post by  sidecarbod  
#1 ·
Hi guys, I have a 2004 ktm 400 exc and it suddenly won’t spark. I’ve tested all wiring connections (stator wires, plug cap, coil, fuses) put a wire down the ht lead and grounded it and still no spark. I presume I need a new cdi as that’s the only component I haven’t tested. Can anyone offer any help please?

pete
 
#3 ·
I’m with RBJ on the plug cap theory. Cheap to try either way. Kevinyorks always says nip a bit (5mm) off the end of the ht lead so it’s in fresh wire. That’s good advice.

I’ve no idea why RFS eat plug caps? Anyone else know?
 
#5 ·
My money is on the stator, if you do go for a new one check out Trail Tec, they might do one for your bike, it will be cheaper and the quality should be better.
 
#6 ·
Checked the resistance on the stator and was reading well. Everything works. Lights, horn, signals. Starter motor turns over it’s literally just getting no spark. I’ve cleaned battery terminals, fully charged battery, cleaned earth strap connection. Put a new starter relay on. Checked all wire resistances and everything’s reading. Cleaned starter button contacts too.
 
#7 ·
The circuit goes: stator-cdi-coil. You’ve said the stator is good and have isolated the ht cap. Have you isolated the kill switch? Have you tested to coil? If both the stator, coil, kill switch, cap are good and the necessary earthing is present then it’s the cdi. To confirm, your ohm’s test result correspond to the manual?
 
#12 ·
Good, keep it disconnected (it’s a process of illumination). So next is the coil. What does your manual say and your test ohms result are they sweet? Can you confirm the earthing of the stator and coil are good and the connection of all components are clean with no corrosion. Also no cable chaffing around the head stock or up from the stator around perhaps the fuel tank or rad.

guys, I’m working through my way as a process of illumination and if ithis differs from yours please correct/suggest:
 
#16 ·
Just checked my notes but bear in mind my bike is a 2013 2 stroke!

Anyway your trigger coil is not far off mine, mine is 125 ohms, same colour wires as yours.

Your power coil (source coil) does differ in resistance, mine is 18-20 ohms, the wires on mine are white and the other is red. After they connect to the four way block they change to Red/white and Black/Red. A good test is to disconnect the CDI, connect your meter across the two wires at either the 4 way block or even better at the connector that goes into the CDI, set it to AC volts that crank the engine, it needs to read 10-15 volts ac.

The HT coil on my bike is fed from the CDI with a white wire, the primary side of my coil is 0.5 ohms, my secondary resistance is loads higher, from the HT lead (no plug cap) to the metal part of the coil my reading is 6.37K ohms.

Maybe your HT coil has an internal short on the secondary side. Check out my f4g packet wiring diagram.
 

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#15 ·
Do you know anyone with a similar bike you could swap parts with?
For the coil, you should be able to do a crude basic test by connecting a battery across the primary to try and induce a spark. Connect the negative side and just tap the positive connection momentarily. Hardly laboratory conditions but it should prove if it's completely fecked or not.
Other than that, check for good earths and clean connectors with good continuity between components.