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EXC Supermoto conversion questions

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9.7K views 45 replies 5 participants last post by  ben-nicho  
#1 ·
Hi, I have a 2011 (60 plate) 450 EXC Factory edition. I have been using it for Green lanes & some pay n play days. Now I want to SM it? The gearing is currently 13T on the front & 50T on the rear (what should this change too ?) I know the SM wheels will be 17" but what width would I need ? What tyre size ? Is there anything else that would need to change ? Would I need a new front calliper or just an adapter for the current calliper ?

All help & comments much appreciated, Thanks in advance,

Mark
 
#4 ·
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Smaller front sm fender and a replacement swing arm chain runner with a small integral chain guide to save the whipping on side of tyre. KTM might still do them. PECGAZ used to make one, but havent seen him on here for ages. That era of bike generally benefit from more air as they can be quite rich. XBikes dyno on my old 530 led to using a more open side cover and open filter cage (no flame screen). Decent handguards and maybe some axle sliders.
 
#46 ·
Reviving an old thread here NORTE23 but i hope youre still active.... ive been looking to get a SM road set up sorted for my 2019 EXCF250, i came across those wheels on 24mx aswell, im wondering how you got on with them quality wise? And wether you just used a standard disc or did you need to use a relocation calliper and large disc for the road?
Cheers Ben
 
#21 ·
The main thing is to be really clean. I used alcohol to clean the rim, then sealed each spoke end with marine grade silicone. Let that go off for 24 hrs, gently warm rim with a hair dryer then slowly apply tape, pressing into place. The tape is like nothing else (l can only compare it to self adhesive acoustic sheet for automotive use) in terms of adhesion. I did mine about 4yrs ago, maybe longer. Lots of people will say its a bodge, but it is tried and tested. As l said, lots of info on line - Adventure rider in the states had a load of info amongst others.

Chain tension - l would run what you should be running for offroad, but bear in mind that the side of the tyre will tend to get a bit of chain whip, but dont worry about it too much.

Front gork guards - not sure if you asked, but full wrap round gork guards will foul on the wider wheel set up, so either chop accordingly or easier still get some open / blade type guards.
 
#23 ·
Great info pal thanks. My fork guards aren’t wrap arounds anyway & have a designed in type of cut out so I had no worries there. Got the sprockets & chain done & found the issue with brake disc bolt fouling on the caliper carrier, turns out the spacers are labelled wrong. Right is labelled left & left labelled right, swapped them round & all fits nice. I’m in work now in the process of fabricating a small part to reduce chain run on the tyre. If it works I will post pics & the CAD drawings I did for it so others can replicate. Can’t wait to ride it now. Again thanks for the info. If I get any punctures I will go down that route.
 
#24 ·
I think l mentioned - there was a ktm part / part made pecgaz on here - that was a rearward continuation of the upper chain slider with a small chain retaining guard ...... very neat and in the matching material. You could search on here but images are probably lost because of photobucket being a bunch of. @KevInYorks might have a pic of one ..... interested to see what you come up with.
 
#26 ·
That’s all sorted now & in line perfectly. Can’t get this WS setting to work though now. Disconnected the 3 wire plug, get WS to flash but when I press + it does nothing. Then I got the Rb 2206 battery fault so I went & got a new battery thinking it was that, replaced it but guess what…..yeah still doesn’t work.
 
#30 ·
Haha guess what happened…………………was out riding yesterday, had done around 80 miles with regular smoke breaks. On the way home was sat at 50mph minding my own business when the engine suddenly without any warning what so ever made a loud crackling noise then a clunk & a pop & cut out. Got recovered home & left it overnight with out doing anything. Today I took the oil fill plug out & found bits everywhere inside. Looks & feels like metal particles. Now is it worth stripping & repairing or not. Do I try to find another motor. I’m presuming the repair bill will be over £1k.