Good value for money if you're going to run it into the ground. Otherwise, you'll probably never be able to sell it.

Look up Robbo on youtube as he has made many many loooooong videos about his.

 

Dirt Bike magazine reviewed one on YouTube and described it as reminiscent of a 1990s KTM. Make of that what you will.

 

Mmm, well last time I rode a 2s was back then - Honda CRM AR, which I actually liked. Not too violent
I just seemed to struggle to ride a 2s as there is no engine braking and I'm so used to just throttling off to slow down on all my 4s.
Of course, I'm not riding fast and I reckon Id get used to it.

But just wondered it they are cheap because they are rubbish, or because all the Euro / Jap bikes are overpriced.

Im not a thrasher, more a pootle bumbler, but fancy a light nimble addition to my stable of 690 and 990. As KTM are about to die and they are too expensive this seemed an alternative worth exploring.

 

Seen a vid on YouTube recently. Phrases like cheap and cheerful don't sell things to me

 

Yeah, me too. But some of the videos they come across as OK, or good, or great. But its hard to pay KTM £11k when looking at a GPX for £5k.
Especially for a third bike that will see just a few weekends use a year.

I'm very reluctant to part with money for a KTM at the moment, what would an alternative be, Sherco, Beta, Fantic ?

 

Mate I go Green laning with has one to go with his 2016 350 husky.
he likes it and thinks it’s a good package, bought it second hand cheap.
He found it peaky But it turned out the power valve was faulty. Only issue he has had.
Seems to be standing up well.

 

Look up 'simon b' on youtube - he has just bought one. Seeing it ridden, it looks like it runs well out of the box.

As Al said, robbo (eurotek??) has/had one and he did loads of vids testing/modding/yacking.

I have heard it described as a 20teen ktm.

Worth a look l reckon.

 

Yup, just seen his video - it really does make me wonder why a "normal / average" rider would spend twice as much on a KTM..............mmmm.
I may have to go and see one in the flesh soon.

 

@ainsleytrimix does that mean you'll be selling your XR600?

 

I like your thinking....

 

Well, yes .... 600 4t = 300 2t 😂

 

I was out with a guy last weekend on the TRF ride and he loves it

 

Yes, my XR 400 is going to be sold. Its a 400, not a 600. But yes I will need to sell it to make space in the garage and generate some funds towards a new bike.
Where is the best place to advertise it ? Here ?

 

Shipster is the honda man he needs one i reckon

 

How about a Rieju, I know nothing about either one really but I think this is the old Gasser

 

@ainsleytrimix advertise it here .......

I have sold a couple of bikes on here .... only place l would as the thought of ebay etc makes my teeth hurt.

 

I think I’d rather spend some cash on a Honda refresh. It’ll cost less than the GPX. You own it already and know the bike. It’ll last well and still hold some value.

 

Plus that GPX is only going to go down in value, likely to the point where service consumables cost more than the bike.
The XR400 on the other hand hit rock bottom value about 21 years ago, and the only way is up.

 

Mmmm, good point. Not that it needs a refresh, perhaps some new tyres, but its just one owner - me and I've pampered it and it hasn't had much use at all for the last 15yrs.
Its just that its a year 2000 old 4 stroke, I wouldn't mind a modern, lighter, better suspended bike. To make it comparable I be adding new pegs, re valving the suspension, new brakes lines, new bars, etc.

 

Cheers, good advice. No way would I want anyone to turn up at my house. Its OK if its someone on this Forum, but sod anyone else !
I will do an advert here first, you never know.

 

I have sold on here - bikes and bits ..... all picked up, no trouble ..... but only people that are 'known' .......

 

Yea I'd be dubious of very new members tbh

 

Although it would be better to systematically destroy the GPX rather than a tidy XR400 ........

 

Made to be used...

But true dat. The only conclusion is a bigger garage.

 

As per the mathematical justification formula for bikes needed 'number owned + 1'

 

Well you are right, the optimum number of bikes is n+1
However, I have a couple I'm just not riding, so I really should sell them and buy something I'm more likely to at least ride once a year

I've already build an extra garage to house some new toys, so its not space I need, its time.

 

£6000 should easily buy a post 2020 250/300cc Beta, KTM, Husqvarna, GasGas with no more than 60hours from any of the brands listed above. Tree reasons why I would buy any of these instead of a brand new GPX.
-Easier to sell in the future.
-Prices are bottoming out at around ~4k, therefore ~2k loss even if you keep it for 3-4 years.
-Much easier to buy parts. (plenty of dealers for these well known brands)
Robbo tested the GPX as a cheap alternative, and even after upgrading 1/3 of that GPX, he still preferred the KTM for proper tough racing.
Just my 2p...

 

Yea

Pretty much my reasoning.

 

Mmm, all good points, but if I did spend say 6k on a 3yr old bike with say 60hrs - I would need to be very careful that I'm buying it from someone who has looked after it and not thrashed it to death.

Possible, but still something that needs to be factored in. What are my chances of finding something looked after to the standard Id like ? On the plus side they probably have all the extras bolted on
I'm not bothered with resale value as I don't intend to sell the bike, unless I don't use it. I'm not planning on racing it, so don't need to spend much upgrading it, just some handguards, perhaps one or two other bits, but probably a few hundred quid.

Anyone got a bike that's not thrashed and not old that I could buy ?

 

Just be patient, the right bike with the right owner it will turn up at some point...
It is very important to remove the resonator and check the condition of the cylinder and also remove the airfilter and check for dirt. (some are replacing the filter for sale but cannot be bothered to clean the area)
TBH not a lot of parts on a 2 stroke and apart from the cylinder/crank not that expensive to replace.
Clutch (not really that expensive and should last 160 hours even if raced)
Crank Seal (again not a fortune to replace)
Starter motor, not that cheap. However, brushes should last ~200-300 hours.
Mate in Romania won the expert national championship on a bike that had the piston replaced at 120 hours and stock suspension. He sold the bike with original clutch at ~180 hours.
Other mate bought the bike that finished 2nd in the Pro class, this bike had ~250 hours (OK, this one had a new piston every 70 hours) ...mate used it for another 100 hours without any major issues.
Watch some videos to see the abuse those bikes are getting on 2 miles long uphills. (3rd gear flat out)
If you read the forums, most bikes should "explode" between 50-100 hours of riding on graded green lanes