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Morning,

So we've all seen the news about the overturning of the TRO on Chapelgate. Happy days.

Before we all get too excited about it, lets reflect on whats been said about the costs. £50,000.00 - yep, 50 big ones. So what? Well, if the TRF hadn't fought it no-one would be enjoying one of the best lanes in the country this weekend.

Don't get me wrong - I'm no huge fan of the TRF. When I first joined, I made the mistake of asking for some route advice and got treated like a naughty kid, the basic message was "come on a rideout with us old fuckers and we'll show you how to be responsible". Well guess what, I'm a fucking adult and I can use my noggin - patronising twats! (or so I thought). The guy who i had swapped forum posts with wound his neck in and to be fair, seemed a decent guy so I went to my local meet, but came away thinking - "not for me". So I let my subscription lapse and spent my money on Memory Map, kept an eye on TRO's, and generally figured stuff out myself.
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Then along came the BBC4 documentary with the contrived scene where the old gits from Longstone basically obstructed the road protesting, then all of the hullabuloo from the old girl who made out like the KTM rider nearly ran her over - despite him rilling slowly down the track, trapped in the left hand rut she was obstructing. That’s when I realised that without the TRF, riding in the Peak District will be fucked. So I rejoined the next day and have done since.
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What's my point? well, its simple. I'm just another lad like you lot on here - I like to tool around, maybe cross the line of legality from time to time, refuse to put a full size plate on, etc. BUT - and it’s a big but - I realise that if we don't support this through the proper channels it will be fucked in the peaks. Sure - we can take off our plates, ride on the ones they shut, and say "catch me if you can", but then we run the risks that come with it.

Alternatively, we can support the TRF. We don't have to join and suffer the lectures, the chin-scratchers, and the surrogate dads. We can just chuck a few quid at it, do the odd protest ride, and maybe - just maybe - we can keep on riding legally.

If everyone on here donates the price of one days play at an enduro track (£25) it could make a world of difference. For me, £25 is fuck all to have a year's free riding in the Peaks. £15 - an oil and filter change. Whatever - every few quid helps. Personally, I think the best way is to join, turn up, start to change the attitudes of the old fuddy-duddys - but that’s my choice.

Their website is here and as has been said already, you can make a donation by clicking on the link on the bottom left of the page.

Cheers for reading and see you on Chapelgate soon - I'll be the one on the busted Beta!
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I'm off to my first meet on Tuesday and to be honest I'm looking forward to it.
 

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Nice one, paul_o.

The TRF is no different to any other club or society, 1% of the people do the boring admin stuff, attend meetings with outside bodies, raise money, spend hours writing letters, making calls and generally doing all the hard work so that the other 99% can turn up and enjoy themselves. There's nothing wrong with that as it's not a popularity contest and these people are not showing off, it's just the way people are.

However, it's only fair that occasionally the 99% pull their fingers out and contribute in some small way. If you're not happy to write letters to the Authorities or your MP or can't go to a meeting or Public Inquiry because you're trying to keep a roof over your head, that's fine by me but PLEASE PLEASE make a donation to the TRF and keep the 1% batting away for all our benefit. It's very specialised work often with legal details to wade through and all sorts of historical research. Not for everyone. The only true thing is that it costs £1,000s every time the TRF have to fight a case and it don't grow on trees these days.

If you are a member already then why not make a donation when you renew and ask your local group to do some extra fund-raising? All the National Park authorities have been watching the Chapel Gate court case in case they can get away with the same underhand methods and now they know they can't but they will learn from the experience.

Best value you'll get for your riding prospects, do your bit!
 

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well said
i turned up to my fist meeting about 5 years ago not knowing what to expect
thought id crashed the bingo but was made wecome went out on some rides and thought this is ok but a bit tame for me
but like any thing in life what u put in u get out
im not to arsed about all the stuff at the meetings but without it we would be fooked
you find a group of like minded lads with in your trf group
and end up with a great gang of mates that have the same riding ability as u
lots of full days riding without looking at a map in differant areas
all for £40 ayear the meeting are a good chance to get together and plan the next adventure
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Please please please keep up the membership as we need every penny we can get to fight the antis.
You don't have to go to a meeting but at least you know your money is helping keep your hobby alive.

And please don't stray from the legal paths as it only gives them ammunition.
 

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Hear Hear.

If you give even the smallest shit about greenlaning then I feel it's your duty to join the TRF. Even if you think it's a bunch of old beardy weirdys (which from my experience, it isn't!) then pay your dues and have them fight the fight on your behalf!
 

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I let me membership lapse early this year and keep meaning to re-do it, think that'll be a job for tonight! £60 a year for me and t' wife

also if you're in the TRF and get trouble for being on a disputed route, they can use their know how and legal people to help you out if you're a member... probably not if you try to join after you've been done!
 

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Good Post Paul O.
Ive been a member of two different TRF groups and my experience is different for both of them,one was a bunch of pipe and slipper wearing old duffers,who whilst willing to lead you around the local lanes where less than keen to mark up your maps and let you get on with it,and the other group that was made of of members similar to the first ,but also had a large hardcore group of riders who didn't want to poodle around at 15 mph all the time and arranged independent ride outs to enduro days etc and got their jollies elswhere,whilst continuing to ride the Lanes with the TRF in a responsible manner and donating to the cause. ( a few are members on here)
I've met some good blokes through the TRF who form the main part of my riding mates today,so would recommend it and persevere with it ,if the group you join is stuck in the 50s do something about bringing it into the 21st century.
 

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Anybody in the West Yorkshire area is welcome to come along to one of our WYTRF meetings which are normally the first Thursday in every month, although this month we have reconvened to our local curry emporium where we get drunk and throw chapatis at each other :D:D

All is revealed here :

West Yorkshire TRF
 

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Good post. You don't need to ever ride with a trf group and yet you can still be a member and get all the lane info sent to you and know your money has gone to a very worthy cause.
In Devon we have one of the biggest trf groups in the country. Plenty of rides organised most weeks as well as a few fun days on enduro style courses on private land. As soon as you become a member you can send your maps off to the mapping lady (an expert enduro racer as well she is) who will mark them up and return them to you. You can also have GPS lane overlays sent to you as well. And all without one ride at 15mph with an open-faced helmet wearing bearded old man. However many of our rides down here are bloody good fun on a choice of over 1000 legal green lanes in the devon area. And to think that most trf led rides are boring and slow -well that just ain't the case. Sometimes what happens on the lanes stays of the lanes - as it's best kept that way.
 

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My gripe with the TRF is the fact they keep going on about the fighting fund and money needed for the fight, yet waste £49,000 a year on a pointless paper magazine, which is a major portion of the yearly fee. That money would be better spent fighting the bigots.
 

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My gripe with the TRF is the fact they keep going on about the fighting fund and money needed for the fight, yet waste £49,000 a year on a pointless paper magazine, which is a major portion of the yearly fee. That money would be better spent fighting the bigots.
Good point ,at the recent AGM it was voted down to give a discount to members wishing to have an electronic copy of the mag. Simple answer would be not to offer the discount ,tell everyone if they want to read it , its availible for download.

money saved .
 

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The most interesting thing ive read in it lately is Barry Keyes ride report from the Spain Austin Vince trip. Other than that,its bog paper.
 

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Thats why it's shite... Younger members can't be arsed, leaving only the older serow riding retired lot doing the articles.

As above with the "get out what you put in" stuff.
 

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Good point ,at the recent AGM it was voted down to give a discount to members wishing to have an electronic copy of the mag. Simple answer would be not to offer the discount ,tell everyone if they want to read it , its availible for download.

money saved .
They have their heads deeply buried in the sand, or so far up their own arses they can't see.
 

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Good point ,at the recent AGM it was voted down to give a discount to members wishing to have an electronic copy of the mag. Simple answer would be not to offer the discount ,tell everyone if they want to read it , its availible for download.

money saved .
Ah simple reason why, many old codgers can't / won't / don't use the internet, make it very small print then they will vote to abolish it as they won't be able to read it :rotflmao:
 

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any views on gloucesterhsire TRF? will join anyway but worth turning up or does everyone go over to wales or down to wiltshire? especially since we have more land owning horsey members of the royal family than anywhere else who seem to have everything turned into a restricted byway, rumour is they are trying to get the Glos stretch of the M5 restricted as well! except for horse boxes of course!
 

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I don't ride green lanes often but....

Without the TRF and the work they are putting in next stop will be no bikes on minor roads, Sundays, when there's an r in the month etc

Keeping the ne'er do wells at bay is worth the membership easily.

Took a lifetime one after 3-4 years normal, in hindsight should have done that first.
 
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