Mich mediums are still the single best all round tyre by a mile but the crown is very soft and thin so I don't know how it would perform with tubes although, I've used front and rear with tubliss for a long time. I've put holes in the front at Walters Arena but the rear has been fine.

Tubes serve a purpose but you'll probably want to move on to mousses, or tubliss or Lucioli before long. Generally, most people prefer a mousse in the front even if they run something better in the rear. I use tubliss mostly but go to mousse for serious races.

You could try the Mitas range of tyres for something a bit cheaper and a bit more suited for tubes but they aren't as good as Michelins.

Personally, I don't think I'll fit any other front tyre now (until Michelin replace it with something even better) but I'm not precious about the rear as other tyres are pretty good for the extreme stuff I like. But there is something nice about knowing you've got michelin mediums on and therefore will be ok no matter what the going is like.

 

Michelin mediums in the back,best there is...
Metzeler 6days in the front,best there is...

 

Metz 6 front is also very good, especially on grass. Knobs can tear at the base though with tubliss.

Maybe I should try the Metz front then but I can't imagine anything being better than the Mich.

 

We could also discuss which engine oils to use

But yes, the Michelin Enduro Med rear tyre is great, maybe a tad better than the Mitas EF07 single green.

 

Al is right.

If you want the best tyre across the widest type of conditions, Michelin are the best. Metz 6 front is also very good, especially on grass. Knobs can tear at the base though with tubliss.

 

Michelin pisses me off Al because the side knobbles don't last long enough...
The Metzeler side knobbles never break off and the front end grips better than anything for me...

 

Fair enough. I have noticed the side knobs slice off on hard terrain, which I guess is the majority of what you ride.

I find that the front grips over roots and in softer conditions really well so maybe it's better suited to traditional British conditions.

Have you tried the Mitas Terraforce Green stripe front in 90/100? I really like that tyre on rocks and roots and very dry conditions but it cannot compete with the Mich on grass or mud.

 

For trails on a bit of everything I run trackers, may consider a switch to a Medium front - cannot afford a pair of the fucking things!

 

In this dry weather and for general hooning about the trackers are ample I find. For racing and especially if sharp edges are needed for grass, the medium has to go on.

There are obviously lots of tyres out there but you do need to weigh up what you actually want from the tyre. Cost is a major consideration these days. Mediums seem to last well and even provide decent grip when very worn (unless racing and then it has to be new) so for me, this makes them a strong tyre even though the most expensive out there.

The Americans don’t seem to get on well with them though. Maybe they are a euro tyre?

Dunlop EN91s are good. The front is great in wet conditions. Only snag is you can’t turn them and not much cheaper.

 

The Americans don’t seem to get on well with them though. Maybe they are a euro tyre?

They fear FIM types like the devil fears holy water. Even my best arguments, that the best riders in the world (Bolt, Walker, Letti etc.) use them only lead to spats. A tyre with a 13 mm low knobbier can't be good.

 

Big knobs need big knobs🤣🤣🤣

 

Cheers everyone for the help!

I'm certainly going for the Michelin medium out back then running with a Lucioli tube (already have) .

For the front, can the Michelin medium still hold its own on sprint races? Or on a Motocross track?
Or would something like a Mitas c19 be a better all rounder?

The bike came with Michelin medium front tyre, and the side nobs had broke off. And my guess was that tyre doesn't have enough support for faster cornering?

 

Cheers everyone for the help!

I'm certainly going for the Michelin medium out back then running with a Lucioli tube (already have) .

For the front, can the Michelin medium still hold its own on sprint races? Or on a Motocross track?
Or would something like a Mitas c19 be a better all rounder?

The bike came with Michelin medium front tyre, and the side nobs had broke off. And my guess was that tyre doesn't have enough support for faster cornering?

Riders like Walker and Bolt use them on the front, I’m sure they’ll be fine.

 

Depending on how much sprint/MX track riding you do as well as traditional enduro stuff, long term it may be worth you looking in to getting another set of tyres. It does help if you've got an extra set of wheels, but not essential. I have got 2 sets of wheels, which at the moment have got Starcross MX tyres on 1 set and MichMedFront/Tracker Rear on the other. This year I've only been doing practise riding and sprints, so the Med/Tracker set get used for riding too/from the woods as they're both road legal, and the MX tyres just get used for racing. The MX set has done 7 or 8 sprints and a couple of hare and hounds, and the rear is starting to look a bit rounded, but still loads of life and the front is barelyworn. It does mean alot of tyre changing though, but the more you do the better you get. My brother has only got 1 set of wheels for his Sherco and hes constantly swapping tyres, but hes been doing more riding than me this year with some time cards mixed in, so he swapping between MX for sprints, FIM for forest, and a worn set for practise!

 

i use mich mediums with tubliss, but in wales it will slice tyres open on that rock slatey type stuff they have there . i do run them harder 13psi on rear in wales and dont seem to damaged them as bad ..but yes they do slice easy . but all other locations no problem with tubliss and mediums im not riding flat out so maybe that helps? who knows

 

I've only had punctures at Walters Arena on the D2D where I put 4 holes in the front. But I carried on and did 2 laps with a flat front and only lost about 2 mins a lap at most - but I'm not that fast so not pushing the front hard.

 

AL that walters arena is type of place it slices , but no where else really, had a knob almost ripped off partner squids bike in wales in back in may, stuffed a lot of turds in no problem for rest of the day ..yet i had none so luck of the draw. if your trail riding its no problem ,racing then yes maybe its all what your prepared to put up/deal with i spose ,no way can i get a tyre off in a trail all that so tubliss suits me..not a fan of mooses so tubliss it is!

 

that's the beauty of just trailriding
I only change 3 tyres a year on about 100hrs of riding
front mousse lasts at least a year
rear mousse change every year
Great not checking any pressures or needing to carry the extra tools
I do ride slow though...

 

no real right or wrong just preference as with most things i spose, i dont like moose feeling or price plus partner is my tyre changer and jesus does he hate doing it on a moose..got to keep him sweet as i do like tyres for certain events so he changes them alot as im a fucking pain ...but its only thing i wont do, i do stuff on his bike to try and even out his pain

 

do you get many mooses around your way?
bet they're bloody hard to fit on a Rabaconda...

 

doh its spelt wrong..im not the brightest creature🤪

 

Mousse, moose who the f**k cares.
I don't race and don't ride in rocky terrain. Simply because we don't have much rocky terrain. I like the Michelin Enduro Med but it really didn't want to hold air for longer than 2 hours. I then bit the bullet and started to use tyre sealant.
Replacing the tyre is a pain as the slimey stuff makes a huge mess. My garage looked like a lost place where someone shot zombies and splattered their guts all over the place. I always have two sets of wheels, one with mousses and one with mousse at front and Tubliss for the rear...

Anyone tried this and can say something about it....

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steve, we had air loss when very diluted soapy water wasn't used , silicon and other things people use we didnt get on with, soon as we went back to the soapy water no snags eve again

 

That is exactly what I found. I used even more soapy water than recommended and it worked well.

 

Luckily the zombie guts rinse off really easily with water.

 

zombie or rambler guts?

 

Try at least 200ml soap water in the front. 300ml in the rear. If you use hand soap or cold pressed type soap there is no salt in it so you won’t get corrosion. Well, I haven’t.

 

Steve,my mate fitted 27 cheap tennis balls in his front tyre and it worked for a while...

 

Yes, I have heard about such experiments but I think I would not trust them. They have a rough surface and I think that can't work for a longer period of time. I run mousses in all my front tyres.

 

Fairy Liquid does contain "salt", but it's not sodium chloride and doesn't cause corrosion. Apparently. I'm not a chemist.

 

You can slit front mouses in half vertically through the circumference like a Bagel. Then put three of these pieces in the front tyre. This stops the tyre getting knocked off the rim. You can also still cut/stuff wedges in. Just a wedge on its own does not take up any width slack and the front feels flat and will come off the rim with tired mousses.