Triumphs Thailand bikes seem to have issues cropping up. According to a mechanic at the dealers, he is spending his time replacing engines in the 400's.

 

Nathan the postman said it’s not fit for purpose.

I saw that too.
Dork in the road said something similar as he also bought one a few months back.

There is talk of a dongle to fix the issue but that may only be for the Non-EU/UK bikes.

 

Ummmm, spares for older 'austrian' bikes might well become more of an issue than ever. Joy.

 

I'm hoping there is a massive forgotten warehouse of parts that they didn't crack open in order to force the market to their newer bikes. It's happened before with some brands, with a third party fire-sale securing years worth of bits. Isn't that where/how David Silver came about?

 

I'm old enough to remember "Jap Crap" and yet now I put a Japanese-made vehicle right up there with anything German in terms of quality/reliability. And more recently, in NZ anyway, the rise and rise of Kia - which are now edging the Japs on reliability (ish).

I wonder if KTM were just so desperate with Bajajajajajaj motors that they ignored or glossed the fact that it's all and only about manufacturing in India? Fuck that. I've been to both India and China, many times, and there is no way in hell will I be part of "the journey" for India to get their shit together - which I personally don't believe is possible. China is a different story; but it's still some years out in terms of deep engine reliability.

 

Fortnine did an oil test on new bikes and the Indian built bikes came out top I believe

 

The local KTM dealer has all but stopped selling the 390s - due to reliability issues across the board. They didn't want the NZ law liabilities slamming on them if KTM warranties collapse.

 

I actually think Royal Enfield is a good product. Lots of the new 450 Himalaya’s with good miles on them.
i think KTM are in the shit and throwing bikes out the door hoping people will buy it before they go pop and leave dealers to clean the mess up.
unless your a YouTube blogger your treated like shit and ignored.
Do you think if any of us had bought the Beta Alp like Nathan the postman did . Ride it off road and decide it’s got fuelling issues etc, The dealer would give us our money back?

 

Might be time to rebrand the forum 👀

 

oldcuntos.com

 

I remember when I bought my first 950, everyone telling me I had made a huge mistake.
how times change.

 

And how history repeats itself.

 

Several cars are/were made in India, not seen anything to suggest they are any worse than ones built anywhere else.

It's all down to using the correct materials and quality control.

 

That's the thing. Auto manufacturers have been assembling vehicles in the far east for years but from parts made in Europe, America or Japan. Now they're manufacturing vehicles there from scratch using local steel. It's that which gives me reservations. When I was contemplating turbo-ing my Rocket 3 the specialists I consulted said from previous work they'd done on those bikes and tests they'd run they didn't think the Thai machine steel used for engine parts was as strong as it should be. And Thailand are one of the better far east manufacturers. Indian engineering I don't know much about. I suspect they're perfectly capable and would endeavour to produce the best engineering they can. My concern is China because I don't think they care less about quality as long as it sells, they corner markets and advance the CCP regime's programme for global domination. Every major company in China is an arm of the CCP. They're imperialists with a plan, not innovators or primary engineers.

 

I knew of two people who went Chinese for manufacture and within months they had degraded the material quality.
Another one in the news some years ago was substituting lead paint for childsafe on crayons.
As Jim says, they don‘t give a toss. They will stitch you up, buy you out then wipe out local manufacturers - even I saw that coming donkeys years ago when the world couldn’t wait to jump into bed with them.

 

 

Indium a close 2nd. Saw some new sealey tools the other day. Not fit for weighing in.