[pgm]

Has there been any of the CF Moto or Kove 800's bikes with initial signs of this issue yet?

There has been rumour but not sure if there’s proof of this.

 

[Black dog]

The quality of work on the video I posted was terrible.
If the 'KTM technician' can't even do up engine bolts, and hose clamps, or turn taps on, what chance is there that he could install a new head and cams without wrecking something?
If I were dong that job, I'd mix up some assembly lube using 50/50 STP and engine oil and paint it on the cams and followers.

 

[Antares]

The quality of work on the video I posted was terrible.
If the 'KTM technician' can't even do up engine bolts, and hose clamps, or turn taps on, what chance is there that he could install a new head and cams without wrecking something?
If I were dong that job, I'd mix up some assembly lube using 50/50 STP and engine oil and paint it on the cams and followers.

Loose bolts seem to be a common issue, i really wonder if it's assembled correctly but the design or material grades don't account for fretting and material relaxation.

 

[TrouserSnake]

I see three possibilities that could have caused of the assembly issues in that video.

1. Genuine mistake, maybe the technician was being overloaded so quality dropped.
2. A sign of the times, the technician so demotivated they just don't care anymore.
3. The shop uses lower skilled 'operatives' to strip the engines out and replace them.

Either-way it reinforces my believe that you are better off learning how to work on your own bike or car.

 

[andygbsmith]

I’m sure there are good technicians about but it’s all done by computer nowadays. Plug the bike in and follow instructions on the screen. We all have stories about piss poor dealer service I’m sure.
not torquing bolts is unforgivable but I don’t see that any of it would cause cam scoring

 

[bigkuri]

The guy said the repair took months and months, and so in fairness we all know the hardest thing is assembling that project bike that has escaped from memory. Add then dealer time pressures etc. No excuse, but having a customer bike sitting disassembled for three months would not help the issue. But the engine mount bolts.... Sheesh.

I guess I was starting to believe the KTM hype that the cam issue was resolved with the new head and followers etc.. Final nail in the coffin if not

 

[DaveNZ]

Has there been any of the CF Moto or Kove 800's bikes with initial signs of this issue yet?

Mates getting his cams replaced under warranty on his CF Moto 800, Valve check at 30,000kms revealed wear of the cams.

 

[TrouserSnake]

Mates getting his cams replaced under warranty on his CF Moto 800, Valve check at 30,000kms revealed wear of the cams.

oh dear.

One guy (on KTM cams FB group) asked on a CF Moto group if any of them had experienced this issue. They were allegedly hostile towards him for asking and later ejected him from the group.
Ignorance is bliss I guess.

 

[TrouserSnake]

Just caught wind of this, looks like a company making improved (hardened) cams for 790/890.
Not sure how that will help if it's an oil starvation issue though.

No idea what he's saying.

 

[bigkuri]

Click on captions - which brings up German subtitles. Then click on settings, and select auto-translate > English.
Cams discussion starts at about 3:30 in, they have basically nitrided the cams.

 

[andygbsmith]

Surly it’s down to KTM to sort this issue properly.
They got away with the 690 rocker problem that owners still live with today.

 

[pgm]

Surly it’s down to KTM to sort this issue properly.
They got away with the 690 rocker problem that owners still live with today.

Can’t see it with all their financial woes

 

[TrouserSnake]

Latest on parts supply (posted on the FB cams group).
I guess it's what we expected due to KTM not paying their suppliers and closing their factories.