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Kind of annoying that the caliper fluid doesn't get changed on a normal fluid change (radial calipers).

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#1 ·
After renewing my brake fluid yesterday it dawned on me that the bleeder is on the banjo bolt so there would have been very little actual fluid changed from within the caliper itself, which might be where most of the manky fluid is.

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No doubt eventually some of the new brake fluid will make its way in there (but not very much).

So it seems the only safe way to do a thorough flush would be;

Flush the lines from the master as per the manual.
Caliper off, pads out and then pump the piston out a little.
Clean all around the pistons to ensure they're clean & safe to drive them right back in.
Crack the bleeder with a drain hose attached.
Drive all the pistons in to push out as much of the old fluid as possible.
Re-fit and bleed to refill with fresh fluid.
Repeat with the other caliper.

What do you guys reckon?
Also has anyone got a tool that is good at pushing in several pistons at once?
I'm thinking of just making something using a couple of bolts and a threaded rod connector.

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#2 ·
Certainly on a new bike to me I press the pistons back into the caliper. After that, only if I remember.

If I can't push the pistons back with my hands then I take that as a sign to service the caliper. Removing the pistons and cleaning the seal groove and seal and reassemble using a smear of rubber grease usually sorts them out.
 
#3 ·
When I'm changing dirty fluid I generally take the caliper off and rotate it so the bleed nipple is lowest point. Then leave it open to drain overnight and flush a fair amount of fluid through it. I always thought I had a lazy approach, as the real way is popping out the pistons and servicing the whole thing. I am gonna try @Scuff trick next time of pushing the pistons right in.
 
#4 ·
When I'm changing dirty fluid I generally take the caliper off and rotate it so the bleed nipple is lowest point. Then leave it open to drain overnight and flush a fair amount of fluid through it.
I'm not sure that would help as it's still just the brake line that is emptying as the caliper is effectively air locked, unless you have removed the banjo bolt and allowed the caliper to drain out?
 
#7 · (Edited)
I assume you are saying there's a difference between radial and conventional calipers such that the "squeeze lever, crack bleeder, close bleeder" method doesn't touch what's in the caliper itself?
That depends on who made the caliper but in essence.. yes.
Some conventional (floating calipers) have a separate bleeder so there is some separation between the banjo (the feed) and the bleed nipple, so some fresh fluid gets in it.

On the KTM/Brembo floating calipers the bleed nipple is still on the banjo bolt, so not ideal.
But the manual states you should push the caliper inwards before bleeding as this will empty the caliper, which is good but I think I'd be careful about doing that without first cleaning the pistons as it might push dirt in and damage a seal.

With the radial types it's not possible to push the caliper over as they are fixed (not on sliders) but also there are pistons on both sides, so you have four fluid cavities per caliper that are not in the bleed flow path.

So basically the best way to flush them is to use the pistons to pump them out first.
The procedure above is what I'm going to do the next time I have my calipers off of the forks to give them a good clean.