Since a phone conversation with a mate last week about what we are going to do over winter i.e. what toys are we going to play with, we've since both bought TRS trails bikes to scratch a long time itch. Looking forward to seeing what it's all about. Apart from wearing a gay open face helmet..!

Any pointers you can share or things to quickly adapt to coming from other types of riding.

Looks like there's quite a few local clubs to me in Berkshire running practice days. But if anyone can recommend any good ones in the South let me know.

Cheers

If you're serious about competing, sell the TRSs and buy Betas. I have a TRS 250RR and I would be a much better clubman rider if I had a Beta EVO 250.

Otherwise, Trials is extremely frustrating but far from seeing what you can adapt from other types of riding, you'll soon learn that other types of riding have nothing to offer Trials, but Trials can make you a much better rider on other bikes.

Work on balance and slow speed throttle and clutch control... until you are sick with boredom... and then do it some more.

To start with, stay off the clutch as much as possible, and just use the throttle and momentum. Although the TRSs are quite "clutchy" bikes.

 

If you're serious about competing, sell the TRSs and buy Betas. I have a TRS 250RR and I would be a much better clubman rider if I had a Beta EVO 250.

Otherwise, Trials is extremely frustrating but far from seeing what you can adapt from other types of riding, you'll soon learn that other types of riding have nothing to offer Trials, but Trials can make you a much better rider on other bikes.

Work on balance and slow speed throttle and clutch control... until you are sick with boredom... and then do it some more.

To start with, stay off the clutch as much as possible, and just use the throttle and momentum. Although the TRSs are quite "clutchy" bikes.

Definitely not serious about competing so the TRS should be fine for dicking about on! The last owner said it was too snatchy for him so maybe all the pussies buy Betas, no idea, this is all a foreign language to me, quite literally.

All i really want to do is nail the basics, do a few practice days and maybe embarrass myself on a Trial and regret it,

Thanks for the tips

 

I've done a bit of trials - Montesa 250 / Bultaco 250, I haven't found it frustrating.
But then again I don't expect to do very well. I just enjoy messing about and having a go.
I suppose if you reckon you will be able to clean the sections - then yes, it will be frustrating

 

The Club — North Berks MCC

THE CLUB

www.northberksmcc.com

mate of ours rides with this club and his lad

 

My Montesa is quite sensitive to the gearbox oil being new, when its fresh the clutch is smooth.

 

Interesting. Good to know thanks

 

Can people have a go on an enduro, be handy to try an easy practice day before shelling out for a bike.

I always enjoy trying to get up hills or anything that I find tricky on the trail.

 

There were plenty of enduro bikes on the Long Distance Trial I did last month...and proper trials bikes were banned...you'd love it....the Tamar Trial.

 

The old quarry @ Betchworth in Surrey is good for a bimble. Open most days 9-2pm, £25. Just a practice venue but plenty for a mornings ride.

 

Great winter fun and great practice for technical riding..we have about six between us mostly betas and tit about at a mates and enter the occasional trial...have a look on acu website and enter the wobblers route.. surprisingly knackering

 

Probably the only motorbike sport where you can be beaten on your shiny new 2022 bike, by an old chap on a 1960’s BSA, modified in his shed

It’s not about the bike but the rider

My favourite is my 30 yo TYZ, over a more modern bike

 

Probably the only motorbike sport where you can be beaten on your shiny new 2022 bike, by an old chap on a 1960’s BSA, modified in his shed

It’s not about the bike but the rider

My favourite is my 30 yo TYZ, over a more modern bike

Nice Yam, like it.

My old man's got a 70's Bultaco he's threatening to get out of hibernation so that will be a good comparison. I guess given the speed everything happens a better balanced / lighter bike is more appealing than modernity .

 

 

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Play around with doing lock to lock figure of 8's - both ways - then getting over logs. If you are really brave, start collecting other stuff to clamber over.

 

You can practice in your front garden, tight lock to lock turning circles is all you need for the beginner sections. Only the advance are riding up walls
I find by dragging the rear you can plod round in 1st / 2nd or even third gear on tickover. For a lot of the beginner sections its mostly momentum and tight corners. Bloody good fun and really cheap.

 

I could do with a day at a training centre to get some basic understanding of technique etc. But most places appear to be up north.

The front and rear garden aren't well suited to motorbikes so chucking it in the van and going somewhere are the only option really.

 

Our club, Launceston and North Cornwall Motor Club, has a sub-class in the motorcycle categories which allow any road-legal tyre (ie a non trials pattern). You won't be eligible for a trophy and you will start after the other motorcycles but you can have a go.
We run one event in the Spring on a closed woodland course and another in the Autumn which is a full-on 70+ mile tour of West Devon and North East Cornwall with 16 or 17 sections, breakfast, lunch and a finish at a village pub (which is also the trailer/van park).

My account here: Team Incompetence at the 2022 Tamar Trial - Adventure Bike Rider Forum

And the club here

Launceston & North Cornwall Motor Club

www.lncmc.co.uk

 

Its cost / aggro factor for one event.

I get a year out of a pair of trackers, 2+ years from mouse.

Buying a rabaconda and spare trials tyre(s) is more than i can justify for 1 or 2 events.

And with work / family stuff i don't have much man cave time to fuck about with this even if I could justify spunking 500 quid to get started.

If I could hitch up trailer and do a trial or two I would.

 

Rabaconda = the most overpriced and overhyped load of shite on the market. Perfect for when you've got a 15 minute work window in the now almost obsolete classic enduro scene. Largely pointless for the average joe unless you want to spank the cash on something.

There shouldn't be much cost and the aggro is an hour at most, which is how long it takes to wash the bike after a ride, but I can understand the resistance. I think it's one of those things where once you've done it, you'll kick yourself for not doing it sooner. If I was nearby I'd bring you a trials tyre and change it for you!

 

Get another wheel and fit a trials tyre to it. Then its just a wheel swap.

 

+ trials tyres are a P.O.P to change. S O F T ........

 

Its getting the mouse back in with enduro tyre after.

How much do rear wheels go for, might be an option.

 

For example

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Old, but useable.

 

Yes, just need to buy a 1994 300 to fit them to ;-)

I am guessing wheels for a 2017 350 Husky may be harder to come by / more expensive, assume 2017 350 KTM would have same wheels?

 

Trials is one of the most addictive forms of riding there is… it’s intensely challenging and immensely rewarding. It will make you a better rider on everything else you ride. Best thing for it is like like Freddie sang about… just get on your bike and ride![emoji16]

Figure of Eights, slow stuff, small obstacles… practice practice practice. Develop muscle memory and move on to bigger obstacles. Ride and have fun, learn to enjoy it and keep riding. It’s great.

Check out Neil Price on Facebook and YouTube, he does some great coaching videos. His Rev, Squat, Go ones are good. Also the Ozzie guys on Trials and Enduro cross training on YouTube have hours of great videos from beginner to advanced rider level. As do Jitsie, some good videos on their channel too.

 

Trials is one of the most addictive forms of riding there is… it’s intensely challenging and immensely rewarding. It will make you a better rider on everything else you ride. Best thing for it is like like Freddie sang about… just get on your bike and ride!

Figure of Eights, slow stuff, small obstacles… practice practice practice. Develop muscle memory and move on to bigger obstacles. Ride and have fun, learn to enjoy it and keep riding. It’s great.

Check out Neil Price on Facebook and YouTube, he does some great coaching videos. His Rev, Squat, Go ones are good. Also the Ozzie guys on Trials and Enduro cross training on YouTube have hours of great videos from beginner to advanced rider level. As do Jitsie, some good videos on their channel too.

Thanks fella good to know I’ll give that a whirl on Sunday

 

AFAIK, the rear wheels are pretty universal (i.e, l have used 2003 rear wheel in a 2014 with same spindle and spacers)

 

A few of us went to Inch Perfect up near Settle in the summer, it was fantastic, very highly recommended.

 

I’ll second that, we’ll worth a visit


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And you can also mod your bike for enduro too

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Might sell the Beta and just use the Monts [emoji2957]

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They do look purposeful bikes. What’s the craic with 4T in trials? Is it the dirty secret?

 

They do look purposeful bikes.

What’s the craic with 4T in trials? Is it the dirty secret?

An acquired taste …..is a 4T in Trials

Not for many

Toni Bou is an exception